Response from Jay C & Co. of uLust.com to our review

So I received this email yesterday:

Hi,

I was just reading your review here -

http://casualencounters.com/blog/2009/03/17/paid-adult-dating-site-review-ulustcom/

Although I disagree with much of your review, you are entitled to your opinion. We have millions of real men and women on our site. We’ve been in the dating site business since 2001 so we’ve had a lot of time to build up our member base. I am not sure what you mean when you refer to the ‘heavy handed’ mods, but we did recently have a host of ‘chatters’ scamming in our chat room so we had to take measure to stop it.

but I am particular concerned about a post made my Craig E on April 20th saying Ulust is a fraud, that is simply not true. Please remove that false post.

If you are interested in selling any ad space, let me know, we are buying. If you have any questions, please let me know.

Regards,

Jay


Jay C
Ulust.com
TrafficCashGold.com
LoveDollars.com

This was my response:

Hi Jay,

We don’t think it would be entirely fair to remove the post, as Craig was just expressing his opinion of the site and relating the experience he’d had there. However, if you would like to respond to the review and/or the comment specifically, we would be happy to publish your (unedited) response on the blog or link to a response if you’d like to publish one elsewhere.

Regarding ad space, we’re happy with our current arrangements, but will contact you if that changes.

Cheers,

Janak
CasualEncounters.com


The next day, this comment was posted on the original review:

Dan Says:

In Reply to Craig Eisele-

Ulust is not “fraud”, the member database is from 9 years of doing business. We receive TONS of new profiles daily which are approved by our customer service team to ensure the profiles are real and not fake profiles, we have a team of customer service that works 24 hours a day, 7 days a week 365 days a year. We take providing customer support as a very high priority so our customers stay happy using the site; we also have a security enforcement team in place that does nothing but look for “scammer” profiles and deletes them immediately once found.. If you ever run into one of these scammers you can contact our customer support and get that profile reviewed ASAP and removed if found to be doing fraudulent activity or even if a member is being abusive we will give that member a warning. We try everything in our power to remove these scammers from our site so our members can hookup with REAL members in a fun / adult environment. If you have problems with any member our support team is online 24 hours a day to assist you just visit http://www.ulustsupport.com for LIVE Chat Support.

We will not go into a debate of our member base statistics as that is company data that is confidential but rest assured we have TONS of REAL new members joining daily and what our numbers show for online is accurate.

Also about females leaving the site to go to yahoo / msn / aol … not all members want to give you their personal contact information. That’s the whole reason they joined a dating site so they can have the security of getting to know a person without providing personal contact information until they want to provide that information. I would suggest getting to know the person first before you ask for personal information unless that member wants to give their contact information right away…if you went into a bar and asked a girl for her number you would most likely end up with the same ratio of numbers received. If you are looking just to get laid then you might want to try a escort site as that’s what it sounds like you are looking for,, remember http://www.Ulust.com is a dating site that can provide you with endless possibilities of contacts to a gender your seeking to hookup with but just b/c a profile states looking for “sex” doesn’t mean they don’t want to get to know your before they hookup or give out personal information.


I responded to that comment with this:

Hi Dan,

Thanks for taking the time to respond to our review on behalf of your employer. I agree that uLust.com is not a fraud, and think Craig was getting a little emotive and hyperbolic when he labelled it as such.

Otherwise though, I stand by my review, my description of the experience I had on your site, and the conclusions I drew based on that experience. People are naturally free to try your site out for themselves and make up their own minds.

Take it easy,

-Janak

Would anyone else like to weigh in on the debate? Anything you’d like to add, disagree with, questions? Hit the comments in the original post, over here.

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6 Responses to “Response from Jay C & Co. of uLust.com to our review”

  1. REDKING
    July 27, 2009 at 8:52 pm #

    As one who has tried many sites, my opinion of them is that 95% of them are BS. Loads of promises, fake profiles/fake pictures, no money back if you don’t find someone/anyone. Matches are usually too far away. Too many women don’t understand the concept of ‘following through’, or making the first move (probably will never happen ever)there are a lot of single people out there who just don’t want to take a chance. Free or pay doesn’t seem to matter either. Like anyone, I join a site I want it to pay off, if it doesn’t (I give a site 30 days)I am wasting my time/money.
    If there really is a site that does pay off, I want to know which one it is.

    • Rick
      February 26, 2010 at 3:47 pm #

      I am in total agreement with you about this. And, I ask, “Is there any site that puts out , so to speak?”

  2. BRENDA
    January 19, 2010 at 8:26 pm #

    CRAIG EISELE IS ONLY LOOKING FOR SEX, HE IS FRUSTRATED THAT NO ONE WOULD TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY. HE LOVES HOOKERS AND IS A LONER, HE CANNOT GET A DATE EVEN IF HE PAYS FOR YOU. HE IS JUST AN OLD, WASHED UP LOSER THAT CANNOT GET LAID. DO NOT TAKE HIS COMMENT SERIOUSLY, HE TRIED TO SUE EVERYONE, HAS TONS OF COMPLAINS AND IS JUST BITTER AND UNHAPPY. HE NEEDS TO GO TO ASIA OR AFRICA WHERE WOMEN WOULD HAVE SEX WITH HIM FOR MONEY IF YOU SEE WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE NO AMOUNT OF MONEY CAN GET HIM SEX. HE IS DIGUSTING, HE TRIED TO PICK UP MY FRIENDS AND THEY ALL LAUGH AT HIM.

  3. Elizabeth Battleree
    October 3, 2011 at 3:47 pm #

    Eh no, a bunch of the people who appear on the site are paid cam models. I know because I was one of them. Jay’s rebuttal is false. I think he means the millions on his site are (what? does he mean pageviews? check his site’s alexa rank – no way he has millions of members) MALE signups.

    Let me say that I quit because:

    1. I was not 100% clear what the job was when signing up (shame on me) but my understanding from how it was pitched was it was a traditional cam site. I was not clear it was a dating site. I did not remain on the site for much longer due to this.
    2. Payment was infrequent and not as promised (which is why I’m even posting this Jay – if you want models to keep quiet: pay them consistently and be more professional)
    3. My photos and photos of other models were used on a battery of affiliate programs very quickly. We agree in our contracts to release copyright so I am aware they’re allowed to do this – but the *speed* that it happened was truly astounding. Im in a square now on xprofile’s latest affiliate campaign – thanks ulust!
    4. He and his co-owners have posted in cam model forums defending his company and their practices in a similar manner as he has here. If the site was 100% legit he wouldn’t need to seek out camgirls or our forums at all, right?

    They’re also behind http://blackcrush.com/ as well and a bunch of other sites. Just look for a similar interface.

    I vaguely referred to Ulust in one of my blog entries and linked here – but I figured I may as well be direct at least once somewhere.

    Models – beware, you won’t get paid each and every time the rate you’re promised. Plus the rate you get varies from girl to girl. Be aware that the site owners will come to your room, gawk and hound you. They also send members messages and comments on your “behalf”… seriously, read the scam reports for Ulust carefully.
    Also it is NOT a webcam job, youll appear on a dating site and guys will ask to meet you which will confuse you since that is not how the site will be marketed to you when you apply. This is an adult dating site scam, not a cam modeling job. You can earn more on other sites – there are even cam/pso sites that pay the same but are 100% honest in their advertising.

    Casual Daters – Sorry – if it is too good to be true, it is. Don’t take it out on the models though, most of us had no idea when we signed up.

    Dear Jay: pay your performers. Better yet: tell them what kind of job it is. Being deceptive to attract sex industry workers to make your sites attractive has clearly bitten you in the ass.

    I wish porn site owners would slow down with this trend of branding adult dating sites with cam model photos. You’re puting us at risk for trolls, stalkers, and other kinds of bullshit. It is also a scam and your site won’t be able to sustain much longeivity. Just hire models to be the face of your site to lure people in (like AdultFriendFinder does), that is totally ok and normal advertising. But making fake profiles with live cams is a bad idea for customers and performers.

  4. mmmmmmm
    October 17, 2011 at 7:22 am #

    Btw Jay (or jman) publicizes ads looking for webcam models here:
    http://webcamjobs.com/jobs.php

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